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Does he have parts or watches from you?

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Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:18 pm
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Hm Mark, kinda disappeared. Tried to contact him via mail,phone,whatsapp and pm.

He doesnt reply or doesnt want to reply. Not cool at all.


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emilio666 wrote:
Does he have parts or watches from you?


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Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:23 pm
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emilio666 wrote:
Does he have parts or watches from you?


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Yes he has parts for a kieferbuild from me and also a downpayment for the labourcosts.


Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:40 pm
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Fargo wrote:
civic4982 wrote:
emilio666 wrote:
Does he have parts or watches from you?


+1


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Yes he has parts for a kieferbuild from me and also a downpayment for the labourcosts.


Not cool at all, if you're going to do a job for someone don't disappear or tkae their money like that.. disgraceful

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Fargo wrote:
civic4982 wrote:
emilio666 wrote:
Does he have parts or watches from you?


+1


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Yes he has parts for a kieferbuild from me and also a downpayment for the labourcosts.


Sorry to hear that.

I haven’t heard from Mark in several months now but if I do hear from him I’ll be happy to relay the message.


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Panerai 6152 no CG 4-liner w/ SF240
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Panerai 3646 Gen California Dial Esdee re-case w/ Rolex 618
Bronze mini 6152 no CG for my groomsmen!
Rolerai Bronze 6154 w/ ETA 6498
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Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:43 pm
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Post Re: Post on the Paneristi fb group
civic4982 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
civic4982 wrote:
emilio666 wrote:
Does he have parts or watches from you?


+1


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Yes he has parts for a kieferbuild from me and also a downpayment for the labourcosts.


Sorry to hear that.

I haven’t heard from Mark in several months now but if I do hear from him I’ll be happy to relay the message.
In my experience he does come good in the end, it can just take a little longer than you’d hoped for. I think it’s a combination of a young family, day to day life and maybe taking on a little too much HF work.
I’ll drop him a line to see where he’s at.

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Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:40 am
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Natas78 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
civic4982 wrote:
emilio666 wrote:
Does he have parts or watches from you?


+1


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk


Yes he has parts for a kieferbuild from me and also a downpayment for the labourcosts.


Not cool at all, if you're going to do a job for someone don't disappear or tkae their money like that.. disgraceful

That signature though. :? :roll:

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Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 am
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well, the way I see it is that Marc is one of the only members here working on an artisanal level and I have a lot of respect for his craft.

If he has collected money and parts from members and hasn't delivered on promises, than he does need to clarify this situation, but if stupid people on other forums want to shell out big cash for a franken build with questionable or completely non existent history, than that is up to them. Marc has gotten his builds up to the level that competes with a lot of these well known and questionable pieces on the Vintage Panerai market, which are mostly frankens anyway. Lies on the other hand are different, but I haven't really seen any yet from Marc, just vagueness, which should be a warning signal for any smart buyer. You can't really bash a man for being vague with some internet stranger.

Also, Marc didn't seem to be actively selling anything. Just posting his work. If he is selling to the vintage panerai market under false pretenses, well Karma is a bitch, but also buyer beware, due diligence, a fool and his money, etc; If we are talking about 60k watches, than do your research please. Btw, get in on Bitcoins now before it is too late.

This has unfortunately become a constant that has turned the watch world, especially vintage high end, into a snakes den. The market was generous for a long time, but now there is not a lot of room near the ceiling, so claws come out and everyone seems to be just trying to one up the next guy.

I am pretty sure everyone here has posted some build somewhere and a lot of you are not 100% honest about what you are wearing. It just so happens to be that a build by marc is very hard to tell from a gen even for "experts". Which I think is fuggin awesome! Fight the power! but do it honestly.

Anyhoo.....neither here or there, most people can learn a thing or two about quality builds from Marc.

Step your games up.

*a gen crown, "swiss" "gen" movement, or a "gen" "plexi" a franken make does not."

Quality costs money.

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